{"id":1332,"date":"2010-06-23T23:50:40","date_gmt":"2010-06-24T03:50:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.contrapositivediary.com\/?p=1332"},"modified":"2010-06-23T23:50:40","modified_gmt":"2010-06-24T03:50:40","slug":"those-gnarly-duntemann-brothers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.contrapositivediary.com\/?p=1332","title":{"rendered":"Those Gnarly Duntemann Brothers"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.contrapositivediary.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/06\/DuntemannBrothersCropped500Wide.jpg\" alt=\"DuntemannBrothersCropped500Wide.jpg\" height=\"219\" width=\"499\"\/><\/p>\n<p>A woman contacted me recently who is evidently a fourth cousin; we have a set of great-great-great grandparents in common. She sent me a scan of an old undated photo and told me that the second man from the left was her great-great grandfather, Frederick Duntemann 1846-1927. She thought that one or more of the other men were Frederick&#8217;s brothers. What did I know?<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.contrapositivediary.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/06\/HermanDuntemannHeadshot.jpg\" style=\"DISPLAY: inline; FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 8px; WIDTH: 178px; HEIGHT: 284px\" height=\"284\" alt=\"HermanDuntemannHeadshot.jpg\" width=\"178\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.contrapositivediary.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/06\/WilliamDuntemannHeadshot.jpg\" style=\"DISPLAY: inline; FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 8px 0px 0px; WIDTH: 180px; HEIGHT: 276px\" height=\"276\" alt=\"WilliamDuntemannHeadshot.jpg\" width=\"180\"\/>Not much. But it&#8217;s an interesting sort of detective work, this family resemblances stuff. I do know that my great-great grandfather Heinrich Duntemann 1843-1892 had four brothers, all of whom long survived him, who died of an infection from a farm injury at 48. I have photos of two of his brothers, William Duntemann 1849-1921 (left) and Hermann Duntemann 1859-1933. (right). William&#8217;s photo was taken when he was in his sixties, as best I know. Hermann&#8217;s was taken when he was 26. If I had to guess, I&#8217;d say that the leftmost man in the group photo was William, and the rightmost was Hermann. The remaining man may have been Louis Duntemann 1851-1928. I can&#8217;t tell, as I&#8217;ve never seen a photo and know very little about him.<\/p>\n<p>Well, they certainly look like brothers to me, and in fact far left and third from left could almost be twins. The guy on the right seems like a shoo-in for an older version of Hermann. That said, I&#8217;m not sure how fair it is to say: &#8220;This is a photo of the four surviving Duntemann brothers, circa 1920.&#8221; Hermann left no descendants, but at least a hundred people descend from the other three brothers. If I say that that&#8217;s what it is, all those people will likely take my word for it. (I&#8217;m the de facto family history expert, simply because I know a little and everybody else knows nothing.) It would be great to have such a photo of the four brothers, and maybe I do. But I think I have to be real <em>damned<\/em> careful about saying so. Uncritical acceptance of expert opinions is dangerous, when the experts know only a little more than everybody else but still want the prestige of expertise.<\/p>\n<p>So I will lead by example: These guys may just possibly have a greater-than-zero chance of perhaps being your great-great (and perhaps greater) grandfathers. <em>It is impossible to know<\/em>. We might wish it were otherwise, but wishin&#8217; don&#8217;t make it so.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A woman contacted me recently who is evidently a fourth cousin; we have a set of great-great-great grandparents in common. She sent me a scan of an old undated photo and told me that the second man from the left was her great-great grandfather, Frederick Duntemann 1846-1927. She thought that one or more of the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[19],"tags":[77,151],"class_list":["post-1332","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-memoir","tag-genealogy","tag-memoir"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.contrapositivediary.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1332","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.contrapositivediary.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.contrapositivediary.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.contrapositivediary.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.contrapositivediary.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1332"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.contrapositivediary.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1332\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.contrapositivediary.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1332"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.contrapositivediary.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1332"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.contrapositivediary.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1332"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}