{"id":1493,"date":"2010-09-29T20:48:04","date_gmt":"2010-09-30T02:48:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.contrapositivediary.com\/?p=1493"},"modified":"2010-09-29T20:49:37","modified_gmt":"2010-09-30T02:49:37","slug":"steampunk-geiger-counter-part-5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.contrapositivediary.com\/?p=1493","title":{"rendered":"Steampunk Geiger Counter, Part 5"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.contrapositivediary.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/09\/GeigerCounterLashup1.jpg\" style=\"DISPLAY: block; MARGIN-LEFT: auto; WIDTH: 499px; MARGIN-RIGHT: auto; HEIGHT: 336px; TEXT-ALIGN: center\" height=\"336\" alt=\"GeigerCounterLashup1.jpg\" width=\"499\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Size matters. Last night I swapped a different step-up transformer into my very anemic Geiger counter high voltage generator: a five-pound brick of an aviation power transformer from the early 1960s, with a 465V secondary. I put the interrupted DC into the 5V rectifier filament winding for maximum turns ratio, and then started pumping the buttom.<\/p>\n<p><em>Way<\/em> better! Thirty or forty presses got spark every time, and took the voltage across the accumulator capacitor (.5 MFD @ 600V) up to about 620V. That&#8217;s not the 700V called out for the Geiger tubes I have, but I think it&#8217;ll be plenty to detect the occasional hapless gamma. One problem I knew I would have is that the capacitor leaks charge far too quickly: In about six seconds, the voltage goes down to 300V. Without more stored charge, I&#8217;d be pumping the button (or spinning the rotary interrupter, assuming it works) pretty much constantly.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.contrapositivediary.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/09\/SparkGapCloseup.jpg\" style=\"DISPLAY: inline; FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 8px 0px 0px; WIDTH: 349px; HEIGHT: 172px\" height=\"172\" alt=\"SparkGapCloseup.jpg\" width=\"349\"\/>I ducked over to <a href=\"http:\/\/stores.ebay.com\/OEM-Parts-Inc\">OEM Parts<\/a> on my Monday errands wander to peruse their capacitor collection, and picked up a couple of new 1.5 MFD @ 630V caps. Two in parallel provide 3 MFD, which keeps its charge long enough to be useful, assuming the Geiger tube will still conduct with only 400 volts on it. I also turned one of the spark gap electrodes around (see macro shot above) so that the gap is between a point and a flat face. The gap became reliably unidirectional after that, and there were no more sparks on make, but only on break.<\/p>\n<p>Next I tried lashing up the full Geiger counter circuit, with the signal from the tube going into a 2-stage tube speaker amp that I built fifteen years ago. Problems came up immediately:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>My 525V DC supply (which I haven&#8217;t powered up in almost 20 years) has a bad filter cap, so if there are detector pulses, they&#8217;re drowned in the AC buzz. No huge problem, as I can now run the Geiger tube off the pure DC in the larger accumulator cap. (That&#8217;s tomorrow night&#8217;s project.)<\/li>\n<li>I don&#8217;t have a reliable pinout for the Geiger tube. Weirdly, none of the articles in the old magazines show a basing diagram, which is three pins in an odd arrangement on a 5\/8&#8243; base. One of the three pins goes to the metal shell, as determined via ohmmeter. I&#8217;m assuming that the center electrode is the &#8220;lonely&#8221; pin, and the third pin goes to the conductive inner surface of the tube. Interestingly, in the junkbox socket I found, the two &#8220;close&#8221; pins were wired together. I sense some cut-and-try in my immediate future.<\/li>\n<li>I may or may not have a radioactive sample to test it with. I dug my grandfather&#8217;s 1953 gold retirement watch out of the curio cabinet, only to find (in defiance of memory) that it did not have a radium dial. My other possible sample is an 0A2WA gas regulator tube, which is salted with .03 microcurie of <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Krypton-85\">Krypton-85<\/a> to ensure immediate startup. Sounds great&#8211;except that the half-life of Kr-85 is 10.7 years. The tube was manufactured in 1962, which is 4.5 half lives ago. Unless I&#8217;m doing the math wrong, that means that only 4% or so of the Kr-85 is still in there throwing particles.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>Of course, I can pull one of the smoke detectors off the ceiling and try that, but there&#8217;s a more intriguing possibility: WWII aircraft equipment meter faces often had radium markings, which are still radioactive even if they no longer glow in the dark. I have three or four old military panel meters from that era, and if I can find them, they may still be active enough to come up out of the background noise.<\/p>\n<p>Assuming that at least one of my two Geiger tubes is good, I&#8217;d say we&#8217;re getting close.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Size matters. Last night I swapped a different step-up transformer into my very anemic Geiger counter high voltage generator: a five-pound brick of an aviation power transformer from the early 1960s, with a 465V secondary. 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